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nav bars on more than one page is a no-no? - 12/07/2007
Well, I'm not a manager, and I'm sure you know best. I speak as a surfer of rings, and that's all. I choose a ring by its description, so when I click on it, I expect to be taken to the page containing the topic of that description. If I land on a page and have to click more than two links to enter, or find a page of links, I hit the back button and skip that site. If I see something interesting and veer off the ring, that's okay with me. I don't explore a complete site when following a ring; I don't think many do.

It really comes down to the type of viewer the site owner is trying to attract. Several of my pages are not intended for the same type of viewers, and I place appropriate NavBars on different pages. It seems to be the sensible way to me, but again, I'm only a surfer and I know how I surf.

I experimented today with one of the rings I belong to. Going down the list on the Hub, it took me four sites before the correct NavBar was on the described page. I came to my two little pages which displayed the bar, then the following four or five didn't have the relevant NavBar visible. Most showed a different ring bar; one had 15 bars of the same ring, and it wasn't the ring I was searching. I might as well delete my work from this ring because these won't cover the ring. I'd partially searched it before joining and didn't see these. It's a full time job, isn't it? LOL

Managers require different things, and that's their right, but I think the priority should be consideration of the viewer/surfers. For me, that means showing the page they're expecting to see as well as we can. My navs are not mixed with dozens of others because I'm pretty particular, and if viewers lose the nav, they can back-button or whatever. It isn't the end of the world. Experienced surfers know how to find the Nav page. The History Button is a wonderful tool.

Having a Nav on a page full of Navs doesn't lead to that certain page you might want looked at. There is no way it can. It makes no sense to me to even use a nav if it can't be pointed to a relevant page. What's the point? There are times I might search a bit to find a page, but not often.

I thought the purpose of WebRings was to lead viewers to the subject they were searching for, not just a site that covers many things. That's how I use it anyway.

Replied - 12/08/2007
I understand what you're saying. But as a manager I worry about more than just a page submitted, I have to worry about the entire site.

When I visit a site that has applied to join a ring the first thing I do after checking for relevant content is go to the sites main page (menu). No way will I accept any site before checking for adult content, animal cruelty, child porn etc. etc. If all is clear I then try to get back to the navbar, if I can't find it within two or three clicks I simply don't accept the site.

Perhaps you might consider that too much but one site owner submitted a series of pages to a very simple ring and it appeared harmless. They didn't provide a link anywhere to the main page just sub-pages, most people wouldn't think anything of that I guess but I was born curious. I entered the main domain via the address bar and found to my horror that this person ran a Pedophile Forum and included a page of links to child porn sites as well as one to the pages he had submitted. NO way was I going to accept it just because he didn't have a link to his main page.

Sorry but it's just how I am.

Also I rarely get sites submitting that cover more than one subject so most tend to have their webrings in one place anyway.

Replied - 12/08/2007
I understand and as a parent/grandparent, I appreciate your being so thorough. Just because there are no links 'to' these ped forums from the submitted site, it would be accepted by many managers. Going the extra step of entering the main url and searching that, you found links going 'into' the ring pages. Good job.

You've convinced me I could never handle the work of a manager.LOL Thanks for the discussion.

Replied - 12/09/2007
No problem :)

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